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aDee · Oct 19, 2006, 07:31 AM // 07:31

i was thinking of playing GW and was wondering if i should start with prophecies or can i go straight to factions and play on..??

dronex · Oct 19, 2006, 07:39 AM // 07:39

why not nightfall ? it comes next week

Xceran · Oct 19, 2006, 07:42 AM // 07:42

I would recommend Prophesies, since you´ll have an easier time to learn how to play the game, using and combining your skills in different ways. Factions is harder to play for a newcomer, since the game advances much faster than Prophesies. And you´ll need a buffert of cash when you start playing Factions because you´ll need to buy new armor a couple of times in the beginning of the game, and to buy new skills since you don´t get much skills when completing quest, which you get completing quests in Prophesies.

And I think that Prophesies is more fun to play

Just my two cents...

S_Serpent · Oct 19, 2006, 07:45 AM // 07:45

You can start playing any chapter you want.

Prophecies: More PVE, better story, slower level progress = less steap learning curve, and really good alround skill set if you would like to PVP too. 6 core professions.

Factions: More PVP oriented, story is a bit shallow, fast level progress = very steap learning curve, skill set not that good but combined with Prophecies it is wicked. 6 core professions + 2 faction only professions

Nightfall: Said to be more PVE again. Seems very promising. 6 core professions + 2 nightfall professions.

These are my humble personal feeling about the chapters. I got both Prophecies and Factions and will get Nightfall next week when it is released. I personaly had the most fun in Prophecies, but enjoyed factions afterall too. For Nightfall I can't wait to start playing it.

Zakarr · Oct 19, 2006, 08:37 AM // 08:37

I recommend buying Nightfall because it is new and there is lots of people playing it. All professions are accepted to the groups. If you want to make assassin or ritualist then you have to buy Factions too because you can't create them anywhere else.

aDee · Oct 19, 2006, 08:55 AM // 08:55

what r the things that i'll be missing if i go str8 to buying NF??

**Marty Silverblade** · Oct 19, 2006, 08:57 AM // 08:57

Play Prophecies first, because it is the first in the series, provides a good introduction, makes it easy to learn, is not encouraging the need to farm (like in factions where you have to farm like hell to get skills), and I find there are usually some nice dudes out there.

If you get NF, you will not be able to get any Prophecies or Factions skills, play an Assassin or Ritualist, or be able to travel to Tyria or Cantha. Anet designs each GW chapter to be a stand-alone game, so you can join in at any chapter you want without suffering a disadvantage to people with the other chapters.

aDee · Oct 19, 2006, 09:03 AM // 09:03

i wont be missing anythin if i start prophecies 1st??

Kook~NBK~ · Oct 19, 2006, 09:11 AM // 09:11

Prophecies: The excellent tutorial area and gradual progression give players a chance to practice using different skills as they earn them from doing various quests along the way. Most skills can be gotten through quests. The story line is pretty good and there's plenty of stuffto do to occupy a person for quite a while. Core professions (Monk, Warrior, Ranger, Elementalist, Necromancer, and Mesmer) can be played with Prophecies. Many of the more popular, useful skills here can't be gotten in factions. It's going to be lacking players for at least a little while when Nightfall comes out.

factions: You start out in the frying pan and are soon dumped into the fire. Very steep learning curve, not a good thing for new players. Not geared to the PvE player at all. The "story-line" is terrible. Personally, I despised the city area (a good chunck of the game) and there's a grind-fest waiting for players not long after getting out of it. You only get a few skills from doing quests, just enough to get by on. The rest you have to purchase. Assassin and Ritualist are 2 additional professions offered in factions, but nobody wants Assassins on their team on the PvE side of things. Three things good about factions: 1. Expanded storage for materials. 2. Alliance Battles. 3. You can travel to Cantha (factions) from Tyria (Prophecies) and get max armor way before it's avaliable in Tyria. It will be a ghost town after the release of Nightfall for a long time.

Nightfall: 9 days until release! The preview weekend let us explore the beginning area of the game and it was a lot of fun! The learning curve isn't as steep as factions, maybe a bit steeper than Prophecies. If the rest of the chapter is as good as what we've already seen, it'll be as good as Prophecies - possibly better. In addition to the core professions, you can create a Paragon or a Dervish (which there will be a huge oversupply of for a while).

Zakarr · Oct 19, 2006, 09:16 AM // 09:16

If you don't have...

Prophencies

You can't access to Tyria but most of it are for below 20 level characters. This is probably the easiest chapter to play so far. You will also miss some skills because they can be found only in Tyria.

Factions

You will miss Assassin and Ritualist professions and don't have access to Cantha. Therefore you don't have access to Alliance Battles. Some skills are not available because they can be found only in Cantha.

Nightfall

Dervish and Paragon professions are unavailable. Elona is out of reach which means that you can't have some skills because they are located only in Elona. You can't have own heroes. Henchmans are computer players which have certain skills they use to help you in your party if you don't find enough human players. Heroes are similar to henchmans but you can set own skills to them and also have some control how they move, attack and use skills. No one really knows what other things Nightfall will contain because it has not released yet.

All chapters

Some armors sets can't be used due to the fact that crafters are only in Tyria/Cantha/Elona. This is just appearance thing because the maximum armor stats are same in every chapter. Character faces and hairstyles are also somewhat unique in every chapter if they are created in specific chapter.

aDee · Oct 19, 2006, 09:17 AM // 09:17

ok i guess i'll start with prophecies and make my way up...but will i loose anythin or any disadvantages by me doing this??

Guildmaster Cain · Oct 19, 2006, 09:17 AM // 09:17

Well, you already missed 1.5 year of GW, im sure u wont miss much more if you dont buy Nightfall yet.

I agree with above poster, start with the start... Prophesies. Best tutorial for the starting player. Biggest part of factions is for the more expierenced player (lvl 20 doesnt say enough) and the rest is boring. Best Nightfall offers is heroes, from my point of view. But these are again will work best for the expierienced player, that knows his skill sets, weaknesses and strenghts. Though I havent played NF extensively, I would recommend, Prophesies then Nightfall then Factions...

aDee · Oct 19, 2006, 09:26 AM // 09:26

is some of the quest gonna be hard when there will be no one to assist or team up with once NF is out??

Xceran · Oct 19, 2006, 10:41 AM // 10:41

In the beginning of Prophesies all quests and missions can be done with henchmen only. Later on in the game the main-missions get harder and you need human players to assist you, atleast the first time you do the mission and you don´t know what to do. When Nightfall is released the population in Tyria (Prophesies) and Cantha (Factions) will decrease for a period of time, as it did in Tyria when Factions was released, but they will come back eventually. I have played for over a year now, and at the moment I play just as much in Tyria as I do in Cantha.

Akoshi · Oct 19, 2006, 01:43 PM // 13:43

I was thiking of buying GW but I was wondering if I should buy Prophecies and Then ask for Nightfall for my birthday (2 weeks or so)? I will get Prophecies almost for free due to some cupon's i got..
Would this be clever or just screw Prophecies and get only Nightfall?

Franco · Oct 19, 2006, 02:08 PM // 14:08

Get Nightfall, prophecies and factions will probably be ghost towns, and even if it isnt there will be much more people in Nightfall

Legolas Ravenwood · Oct 19, 2006, 02:22 PM // 14:22

The Prophecies story line might be good, but it's not good if you are playing the game alone. Most Tyrian (Prophecies World = Tyria) outposts are dead, not one person insight. The only people I come across in the Maguuma Jungle are new players that don't know how to skip to the Crystal Desert and people uncovering the map. About half the missions are dead too. You might have a slower rising learning curve but with no one to help you learn you might as well try for a degree in English Literature without knowing the English language.

Go for Nightfall. There will be lots of people playing it. Lots of new players learning the game like yourself and lots of veteran players helping along the way. The Nightfall Preview Event (about a Month ago) was a blast, everyone loved it. When I get Nightfall I will be playing it with a new character (have reserved a name for my new Ranger). I might bring my Tyrian characters over but I doubt it, since my NF Ranger will be my new #1.

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what r the things that i'll be missing if i go str8 to buying NF??

You wont miss out on anything really. The only 2 things you'll miss out on is the Assassin and the Ritualist. Personally I like playing the Assassin in PVP (Player VS Player) but not in PVE (Player VS Elements). The Ritualist, well let's just say I've never seen such a boring profession ever in any game. Going into Nightfall will be your best bet, since Anet (GuildWars makers) will be focusing there full attention on it.

Da Scotty · Oct 19, 2006, 02:36 PM // 14:36

There might be fewer people, but a ghost town???? I dont think so... Have you put foot in pre ascalon lately??? its still buzzing man.

And if you really are worried about that buy prophecies and NF.

http://eu.plaync.com/eu/games/buynow

It will be cheaper than WoW anyway! (pffffft WoW lamo)

Kook~NBK~ · Oct 19, 2006, 02:38 PM // 14:38

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Originally Posted by Akoshi

I was thiking of buying GW but I was wondering if I should buy Prophecies and Then ask for Nightfall for my birthday (2 weeks or so)? I will get Prophecies almost for free due to some cupon's i got..
Would this be clever or just screw Prophecies and get only Nightfall?

The opportunity to get both with very little cost? Take it! When it comes to "which one first?" either one would be good choices, but having both would be a very good thing. When you link chapters together, you can take your characters back and forth from one to the other, and you won't run out of things to see and do for a long, long time!

Ole Man Bourbon · Oct 19, 2006, 04:04 PM // 16:04

I'd say Prophecies + Nightfall would be a nice combo. If you can get to Lion's Arch or even Droknar's Forge before Nightfall loads you'll be ready to go.

Oct 19, 2006, 08:57 AM // 08:57	#7
Marty Silverblade Administrator Join Date: Jun 2006	Play Prophecies first, because it is the first in the series, provides a good introduction, makes it easy to learn, is not encouraging the need to farm (like in factions where you have to farm like hell to get skills), and I find there are usually some nice dudes out there. If you get NF, you will not be able to get any Prophecies or Factions skills, play an Assassin or Ritualist, or be able to travel to Tyria or Cantha. Anet designs each GW chapter to be a stand-alone game, so you can join in at any chapter you want without suffering a disadvantage to people with the other chapters. Last edited by Marty Silverblade; Oct 19, 2006 at 08:59 AM // 08:59..

Oct 19, 2006, 09:16 AM // 09:16	#10
Zakarr Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland	If you don't have... Prophencies You can't access to Tyria but most of it are for below 20 level characters. This is probably the easiest chapter to play so far. You will also miss some skills because they can be found only in Tyria. Factions You will miss Assassin and Ritualist professions and don't have access to Cantha. Therefore you don't have access to Alliance Battles. Some skills are not available because they can be found only in Cantha. Nightfall Dervish and Paragon professions are unavailable. Elona is out of reach which means that you can't have some skills because they are located only in Elona. You can't have own heroes. Henchmans are computer players which have certain skills they use to help you in your party if you don't find enough human players. Heroes are similar to henchmans but you can set own skills to them and also have some control how they move, attack and use skills. No one really knows what other things Nightfall will contain because it has not released yet. All chapters Some armors sets can't be used due to the fact that crafters are only in Tyria/Cantha/Elona. This is just appearance thing because the maximum armor stats are same in every chapter. Character faces and hairstyles are also somewhat unique in every chapter if they are created in specific chapter. Last edited by Zakarr; Oct 19, 2006 at 09:19 AM // 09:19..

Oct 19, 2006, 02:36 PM // 14:36	#18
Da Scotty Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: London UK Guild: TTR Profession: N/Me	Ghost Town pfffffffffffft There might be fewer people, but a ghost town???? I dont think so... Have you put foot in pre ascalon lately??? its still buzzing man. And if you really are worried about that buy prophecies and NF. http://eu.plaync.com/eu/games/buynow It will be cheaper than WoW anyway! (pffffft WoW lamo)

Oct 19, 2006, 07:31 AM // 07:31	#1
aDee Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2006	To start GW!! i was thinking of playing GW and was wondering if i should start with prophecies or can i go straight to factions and play on..??

Oct 19, 2006, 07:39 AM // 07:39	#2
dronex Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2005 Profession: Mo/	why not nightfall ? it comes next week

Oct 19, 2006, 07:42 AM // 07:42	#3
Xceran Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sweden Guild: nwo Profession: R/	I would recommend Prophesies, since you´ll have an easier time to learn how to play the game, using and combining your skills in different ways. Factions is harder to play for a newcomer, since the game advances much faster than Prophesies. And you´ll need a buffert of cash when you start playing Factions because you´ll need to buy new armor a couple of times in the beginning of the game, and to buy new skills since you don´t get much skills when completing quest, which you get completing quests in Prophesies. And I think that Prophesies is more fun to play Just my two cents...

Oct 19, 2006, 07:45 AM // 07:45	#4
S_Serpent Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: When not at Aziure's Wizard Tower you can find my in Belgium Guild: Knigths of the Keyboard Order - KkO	You can start playing any chapter you want. Prophecies: More PVE, better story, slower level progress = less steap learning curve, and really good alround skill set if you would like to PVP too. 6 core professions. Factions: More PVP oriented, story is a bit shallow, fast level progress = very steap learning curve, skill set not that good but combined with Prophecies it is wicked. 6 core professions + 2 faction only professions Nightfall: Said to be more PVE again. Seems very promising. 6 core professions + 2 nightfall professions. These are my humble personal feeling about the chapters. I got both Prophecies and Factions and will get Nightfall next week when it is released. I personaly had the most fun in Prophecies, but enjoyed factions afterall too. For Nightfall I can't wait to start playing it.

Oct 19, 2006, 08:37 AM // 08:37	#5
Zakarr Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland	I recommend buying Nightfall because it is new and there is lots of people playing it. All professions are accepted to the groups. If you want to make assassin or ritualist then you have to buy Factions too because you can't create them anywhere else.

Oct 19, 2006, 08:55 AM // 08:55	#6
aDee Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2006	what r the things that i'll be missing if i go str8 to buying NF??

Oct 19, 2006, 09:03 AM // 09:03	#8
aDee Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2006	i wont be missing anythin if i start prophecies 1st??

Oct 19, 2006, 09:11 AM // 09:11	#9
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	Prophecies: The excellent tutorial area and gradual progression give players a chance to practice using different skills as they earn them from doing various quests along the way. Most skills can be gotten through quests. The story line is pretty good and there's plenty of stuffto do to occupy a person for quite a while. Core professions (Monk, Warrior, Ranger, Elementalist, Necromancer, and Mesmer) can be played with Prophecies. Many of the more popular, useful skills here can't be gotten in factions. It's going to be lacking players for at least a little while when Nightfall comes out. factions: You start out in the frying pan and are soon dumped into the fire. Very steep learning curve, not a good thing for new players. Not geared to the PvE player at all. The "story-line" is terrible. Personally, I despised the city area (a good chunck of the game) and there's a grind-fest waiting for players not long after getting out of it. You only get a few skills from doing quests, just enough to get by on. The rest you have to purchase. Assassin and Ritualist are 2 additional professions offered in factions, but nobody wants Assassins on their team on the PvE side of things. Three things good about factions: 1. Expanded storage for materials. 2. Alliance Battles. 3. You can travel to Cantha (factions) from Tyria (Prophecies) and get max armor way before it's avaliable in Tyria. It will be a ghost town after the release of Nightfall for a long time. Nightfall: 9 days until release! The preview weekend let us explore the beginning area of the game and it was a lot of fun! The learning curve isn't as steep as factions, maybe a bit steeper than Prophecies. If the rest of the chapter is as good as what we've already seen, it'll be as good as Prophecies - possibly better. In addition to the core professions, you can create a Paragon or a Dervish (which there will be a huge oversupply of for a while).

Oct 19, 2006, 09:17 AM // 09:17	#11
aDee Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2006	ok i guess i'll start with prophecies and make my way up...but will i loose anythin or any disadvantages by me doing this??

Oct 19, 2006, 09:17 AM // 09:17	#12
Guildmaster Cain Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2006 Location: Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D] Guild: Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]	Well, you already missed 1.5 year of GW, im sure u wont miss much more if you dont buy Nightfall yet. I agree with above poster, start with the start... Prophesies. Best tutorial for the starting player. Biggest part of factions is for the more expierenced player (lvl 20 doesnt say enough) and the rest is boring. Best Nightfall offers is heroes, from my point of view. But these are again will work best for the expierienced player, that knows his skill sets, weaknesses and strenghts. Though I havent played NF extensively, I would recommend, Prophesies then Nightfall then Factions...

Oct 19, 2006, 09:26 AM // 09:26	#13
aDee Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2006	is some of the quest gonna be hard when there will be no one to assist or team up with once NF is out??

Oct 19, 2006, 10:41 AM // 10:41	#14
Xceran Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sweden Guild: nwo Profession: R/	In the beginning of Prophesies all quests and missions can be done with henchmen only. Later on in the game the main-missions get harder and you need human players to assist you, atleast the first time you do the mission and you don´t know what to do. When Nightfall is released the population in Tyria (Prophesies) and Cantha (Factions) will decrease for a period of time, as it did in Tyria when Factions was released, but they will come back eventually. I have played for over a year now, and at the moment I play just as much in Tyria as I do in Cantha.

Oct 19, 2006, 01:43 PM // 13:43	#15
Akoshi Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2006	I was thiking of buying GW but I was wondering if I should buy Prophecies and Then ask for Nightfall for my birthday (2 weeks or so)? I will get Prophecies almost for free due to some cupon's i got.. Would this be clever or just screw Prophecies and get only Nightfall?

Oct 19, 2006, 02:08 PM // 14:08	#16
Franco Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: England Guild: VoB Profession: Me/	Get Nightfall, prophecies and factions will probably be ghost towns, and even if it isnt there will be much more people in Nightfall

Oct 19, 2006, 04:04 PM // 16:04	#20
Ole Man Bourbon Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: GONG Profession: W/E	I'd say Prophecies + Nightfall would be a nice combo. If you can get to Lion's Arch or even Droknar's Forge before Nightfall loads you'll be ready to go.